tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36009958.post41066628819449283..comments2023-11-09T14:15:40.111+02:00Comments on Fatima and Ahmed's Son: Race and Biology 2Ridwanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16758153484699728802noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36009958.post-47806389956146249322008-08-18T19:33:00.000+02:002008-08-18T19:33:00.000+02:00Hey there Dade. You are absolutely right that the...Hey there Dade. You are absolutely right that there are no meaningful barriers to <BR/>'interbreeding' among humans.<BR/><BR/>He is a hack and it is sad that the Indian government supports his nonsense with funding.<BR/><BR/>He is a kind of celebrity who has no scientific training. He cannot account for his theory.<BR/><BR/>What bugs the hell out of me are the assumptions that one can tell these differences by infering this and that human quality.<BR/><BR/>So if the apes come from different continents then there must be a correlation between origin and development.<BR/><BR/>So, Africans are inferior apes because the continent is underdeveloped, etc.<BR/><BR/>I am not saying that Bakshi says this, but there are others who have versions of this thinking (including Watson).<BR/><BR/>Peace brother,<BR/>RidwanRidwanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16758153484699728802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36009958.post-32549791251059653112008-08-18T19:27:00.000+02:002008-08-18T19:27:00.000+02:00Hi PZ. I see you are still "steaming" and for goo...Hi PZ. I see you are still <BR/>"steaming" and for good reason.<BR/><BR/>"Culturalizing" race ... mmmmm.<BR/><BR/>Brazil is definitely fascinating in terms of how race is described.<BR/><BR/>Here in South Africa there is no conversation of "culturalizing" race that I am aware of.<BR/><BR/>But how can anyone think that the cultural version of oppression is better than the racial?<BR/><BR/>Geez hey.<BR/><BR/>Thanks PZ, trust you are well.<BR/><BR/>Peace,<BR/>RidwanRidwanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16758153484699728802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36009958.post-58123871091016226122008-08-18T19:21:00.000+02:002008-08-18T19:21:00.000+02:00Geoffrey I have linked my thinking on Watson's rem...Geoffrey I have linked my thinking on Watson's remarks.<BR/><BR/>Here are the two posts:<BR/><BR/>http://ridwanlaher.blogspot.com/2007/10/race-and-biology.html<BR/><BR/>http://ridwanlaher.blogspot.com/2007/10/race-and-biology-humpty-was-pushed.html<BR/><BR/>The overall point is that there is no science in race, race cannot be proven in biology or in any other science.<BR/><BR/>Watson started the furore by saying that he was "inherently gloomy" that Africans (read Blacks) could achieve what whites have achieved because they were less intelligent and "tests" say so."<BR/><BR/>He later retracted this racist nonsense by saying he was misunderstood.<BR/><BR/>Race is simply a socio-historic and racial construction, there is no predetermined scientific manner of accounting for race or racial behaviour.<BR/><BR/>RidwanRidwanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16758153484699728802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36009958.post-32047315780691598872008-08-18T16:53:00.000+02:002008-08-18T16:53:00.000+02:00Hi, Ridwan.Bakshi's "theory" is easily refuted, is...Hi, Ridwan.<BR/><BR/>Bakshi's "theory" is easily refuted, is it not? If the various races were, in fact, distinct species, they would not be able to breed and produce viable offspring. For example, a horse and donkey can breed, but they produce a mule which is incapable of breeding. <BR/><BR/>Well, obviously the same is not true for "Causcasians," "Mongoloids," and "Negroids." In fact, there is an entire line of Thomas Jefferson's descendants that are living proof that interracial breeding produce viable offspring.<BR/><BR/>Bakshi's a racist hack, it would seem.Dade Cariagahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13431049944346345893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36009958.post-8108029601923644182008-08-18T05:14:00.000+02:002008-08-18T05:14:00.000+02:00"The outcome has been that race is treated as cult..."The outcome has been that race is treated as cultural but in a manner that replicates its biological assumptions."<BR/><BR/>Culturalizing it, say my Brazilian interlocutors, makes it OK even when the material results are the same [as you can see, I am STILL stewing about that conversation].Professor Zerohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04909063513731044826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36009958.post-11383255534194787932008-08-18T00:11:00.000+02:002008-08-18T00:11:00.000+02:00Serious question.What in Watson's statements did y...Serious question.<BR/>What in Watson's statements did you find to be ludicrous?Geoffrey Goineshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13422029190829692943noreply@blogger.com